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MINNEAPOLIS — Two paramedics took the witness stand Thursday afternoon in the murder trial of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin and told jurors George Floyd appeared to be in medical distress or dead when they arrived at the scene.

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Jurors listened to their testimony and watched body camera footage from an officer inside the ambulance. On Wednesday, they sat through hours of police body-camera videos.

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When viewing video of Floyd's final moments, bystander and witness Charles McMillian, 61, broke down sobbing on the witness stand as he recounted his memories of last Memorial Day. Videos shown to the jurors reveal McMillian confronted Chauvin as the ambulance carrying Floyd pulled away from the scene, sirens blaring. McMillian told Chauvin he didn't respect what Chauvin had done.

 

"That’s one person’s opinion," Chauvin said from inside his squad car to McMillian on the sidewalk, according to body-camera video. "We gotta control this guy 'cause he’s a sizable guy ... and it looks like he’s probably on something."

Floyd, a Black man, died in police custody on May 25, 2020, after Chauvin, who is white, pinned his knee against Floyd’s neck for more than nine minutes. Chauvin is charged with second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

 

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Latest updates:

• Court was expected to resume at 9:15 a.m. CST Friday and end early, a little after noon.
• Sgt. David Pleoger, a recently retired Minneapolis police officer, testified Thursday afternoon.
• Jeremy Norton, a Minneapolis Fire Department captain, took the stand Thursday afternoon.
• Derek Smith, a paramedic with Hennepin County EMS, told jurors he thought George Floyd "was dead" Thursday afternoon.
• Seth Bravinder, Smith's partner paramedic, testified Thursday morning.
• Minneapolis native Courteney Ross, 45, also testified Thursday morning about her three-year relationship with Floyd. 
• Philonise Floyd, George Floyd's brother from Houston, was in court Thursday.
• Jurors have heard from17 witnesses to the death of George Floyd, and several have cried on the stand describing their attempts to intervene on his behalf.
• Witnesses have included, an off-duty firefighter, 911 dispatcher, a cashier working across the street, the teenager who recorded the now viral video of Floyd's death and her 9-year-old cousin. 
• The prosecution on Wednesday played videos from the body-cams of former officers Alexander Kueng, Thomas Lane and Tou Thao, as well as part of Chauvin's video.

Jury won't hear about 6 other times Chauvin used force on arresteesGuilt, regret, helplessness: Floyd's death had 'profound' impact on witnessesA police legal fund is backing up Chauvin's attorneyTrial is not just about the Floyd video: Recap of opening statementsMeet the jurors who will decide if Chauvin is guilty of murder

'They could have ended their restraint,' says MPD cop who reviews officers' use of force

David Pleoger, recently retired after serving as afternoon sergeant for Minneapolis's third police precinct, took the stand Thursday afternoon. He was the supervising officer the day George Floyd died and the one who 911 dispatcher Jena Scurry, who testified Monday, alerted to a possible use of force incident after seeing officers on top of someone through city surveillance cameras.

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As a sergeant, Ploeger would review officers' uses of force, but he did not do a use of force review in the May 25, 2020 incident, as it involved a death in police custody and elavated to internal affairs, he said.

Prosecutor Steve Schleicher replayed Scurry’s call to Pleoger on Thursday — the second time jurors have heard it played in court. After receiving that call from Scurry, Pleoger said he rang Chauvin on his cell phone to inquire about what had happened. "We just had to hold a guy down. He was going crazy," Chauvin can be heard telling Pleoger on body-camera recording.

The rest of the conversation was not recorded because Chauvin turned off his body camera, as allowed per policy. Pleoger tried to remember the rest of his conversation with Chauvin that day, saying he believed Chauvin told him officers had tried to put Floyd in the car and he became combative. "I think he mentioned either his nose or his mouth. A bloody lip I think," he said.

Pleoger said Chauvin told him Floyd suffered a medical emergency and they had called an ambulance. Pleoger said Chauvin did not say anything about placing a knee on Floyd’s neck.

After the call with Chauvin, Pleoger said he went to the scene with the intention of doing a use of force review. When he arrived, he became the senior officer on the scene. He instructed Chauvin and another officer to come with him to Hennepin County Medical Center "to check on the party's condition" and told the two officers to get witness information.

 

Schleicher played a segment of police body-cam video in which Pleoger asks Chauvin to talk to witnesses. "We can try," Chauvin said. "They're pretty hostile."

Once he arrived at the medical center, Pleoger said he was told by staff that Floyd was "doing poorly," and, later, that Floyd had died. Pleoger said he called the liteunant in charge of the city at night to inform him of the critical incident, and that lieutenant prodded Pleoger to ask the officers involved if they used additional force.

Only then did Chauvin tell Pleoger that "he knelt on Floyd or knelt on his neck," Pleoger said. Asked if that was the first time he became aware force had been applied to Floyd’s neck, Pleoger said "yes." He said he helped arrange rides to send the officers to city hall to be interviewed.

"Would you agree that a person may be restrained only to the degree necessary to keep them under control," Schleicher asked.  "Yes and no more restraint," Pleoger said.

Schleicher asked when the restraint of Floyd shoud have ended. Pleoger replied, "When Mr. Floyd was no longer offering up any resistance to the officers, they could have ended their restraint."

Under the medical assistance provision, officers are required to render medical aid and request EMS, if necessary. Asked by Schleicher if the dangers of positional asphyxia are "generally known" in the department, Pleoger said "yes."

"If your restrain somebody or leave somebody on their chest and stomach for took long, their breathing can become compromised, so you want to get them up out of that position after a while," Pleoger said, adding that the prone position can be dangerous even if there is no additional pressure.

 

On cross examination, Nelson asked if Pleoger had ever been in a situation as an officer where a crowd starts to "yell" or become "volatile." Pleoger said yes. Asked if it had ever caused him "concern," Pleoger said yes. If someone was having a medical emergency at the same time, Pleoger said, officers would have to "deal with both kind of simultaneously."

Nelson appeared to compare a crowd of bystanders with a "gun battle," asking Pleoger how he would handle a situation when there was a "threat" and someone in need of medical assistance, such as CPR. &